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contributors. This page is not an encyclopedia article or a Wikipedia policy, as it has not been reviewed by the community. Shortcut WP:SCIRSWP:SCIRS...

article is just serving as a POV fork, attempting to ignore WP:MEDRS and WP:SCIRS by listing every study done on the topic (most of which were done by proponents...

MidnightMayhem (t · c) on 02 Jun 2026 Verify content. Use reliable sources per WP:SCIRS. Read this Signpost editorial. Improve soils-related content at Wikipedia...

article cites the original research report, as WP:SCIRS allows in a situation like this. WP:SCIRS does not disallow news coverage, although it has advice...

scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) Per WP:GNG, WP:NEO, WP:SCIRS/WP:MEDRS, and previous discussions such as apothisexuality, noetisexuality...

will note that this passage in SCIRS came about after an RFC on this board. My questions is thus: How binding is SCIRS? If it is not binding, how would...

time to bump SCIRS to guideline status too? – Joe (talk) 11:22, 11 April 2024 (UTC) I've left notifications about this proposal at the SCIRS talk page,...

Wikipedia:WikiProject_Inline_Templates, the closest existing ones I can see are {{SCIRS}} ⇒[unreliable scientific source?], and possibly {{POV-statement}} and the...

ThePlatypusofDoom (talk) 16:06, 9 April 2016 (UTC) Delete: There is no evidence in WP:SCIRS literature that ingested polyphenols ("phenolics") a) have definable roles...

reliable sources (law) (WP:RSLAW) Identifying reliable sources (science) (WP:SCIRS) Identifying reliable sources (medicine) (WP:MEDRS) Identifying and using...

for guidance to add relative and reputable sources. ScirIvan (talk) 06:58, 22 July 2024 (UTC) @ScirIvan, the sources are things like "18 Free and Paid...

WikiProject's tropical meteorology articles may also be found at WP:SCICITE and WP:SCIRS. Reports, bulletins, and other products issued by Regional Specialized Meteorological...

800-1100, D.M. Hadley, Bloomsbury, 2001. Sowerby was not a shire; it was a scir, understood as a poorly understood unit of territorial organization under...

high-quality reliable sources. For science, this means sources that comply with WP:SCIRS. A phylum is not always defines like you described either (could be genetic)...

but the translated paper can be cite alongside, for convenience to non-French speakers. WP:USESPS WP:RS WP:SPS WP:RSE WP:MEDRS WP:SCIRS WP:EXCEPTIONAL...

WikiProject's tropical meteorology articles may also be found at WP:SCICITE and WP:SCIRS. Reports, bulletins, and other products issued by Regional Specialized Meteorological...

recent years and most of the sources are out of date and not solid per WP:SCIRS. There is a 3-year old proposal for merger with Phytochemical but such a...

linkage to WP:SCIRS across the Wiki itself. Consequently, whenever someone references WP:SCIRS, a user will sometimes retort that that WP:SCIRS is 'just an...

The student popped up a few days ago, my criticism of According to WP:SCIRS, Cite reviews, don't write them is older. To put the finger where it hurts...

applied to sourcing for any medical claims contained within. (Ditto WP:SCIRS). So to me this becomes a question of 1) how can the article can be expanded...

Peasantry and the Growth of Lordship, where it is characterised as a 'small scir'. Andrew (talk) 12:01, 8 February 2014 (UTC) Please avoid personal accusations...

WP:BEFORE search, "apothisexuality" has not been discussed by any WP:MEDRS/WP:SCIRS—which would be necessary in order to even define the concept since it is...

I consider that quite acceptable given this circumstance. Moreover, WP:SCIRS#Popular_press states that "one possibility is to cite a higher-quality source...

zero eccentricity), so it's not new. It's also pretty weak in terms of WP:SCIRS too. A single primary research article carries different weight depending...

Charter draft review period Added 4 April 2024, archived 4 May 2024 Promoting SCIRS to a guideline Added 30 April 2024, archived 7 May 2024 Voting for U4C candidates...

I was looking for it and couldn't find it, the relevant guidance is WP:SCIRS. My argument during this AfD has only ever been that there should be an...

that's original research. I have tried to inform this Kleuske guy that WP:SCIRS makes clear that genetic studies about phenotypes (intelligence, hair color)...

and ideas taken from primary sources as we define a secondary source. WP:SCIRS is pretty clear that a secondary source is a review or book, which as far...

of view during an ongoing talk page discussion with no consensus or WP:SCIRS sources established to support the user's opinion. Zefr (talk) 19:53, 26...

Wikipedia community that WP:MEDRS applies to biomedical matters and WP:SCIRS applies to scientific matters. --Guy Macon (talk) 06:27, 19 November 2015...

current version. First, note what isn't in the new version. Not a single WP:SCIRS source that says that earthquakes cause lights in the sky. Plenty of sources...

research is so complicated and so often bitterly controversial [36] that WP:SCIRS and its instructions for finding scientific consensus in authoritative secondary...

article is just serving as a POV fork, attempting to ignore WP:MEDRS and WP:SCIRS by listing every study done on the topic (most of which were done by proponents...

material found in a primary source." See the same section as well as Wikipedia:SCIRS#Respect_secondary_sources for other commentary about when it is appropriate...

community to develop sourcing guidelines along the lines of WP:MEDRS or WP:SCIRS for controversial historical topics. – Joe (talk) 11:45, 16 September 2019...

conflict with his personal agenda (or POV), often citing essays such as WP:SCIRS and WP:MEDRS. However he was including similar primary and secondary genetic...

claims, nutrition PhD, physiology, neuroscience (retired) WP:MEDRS, WP:SCIRS, WP:MEDMOS علاء • Talk • Contribs Medical student WP:Anatomy, WP:MED, Neurology...

topic area. SlimVirgin, I know we disagree about some small matters at WP:SCIRS, but for the most part I edit science articles in preference to adminning...

editorial approach to reliable sourcing was appropriate - cf WP:SCIRS, including WP:SCIRS#Choosing sources). Please note that this is not an appropriate...

or uncivil disagreement over the proper application of WP:WEIGHT and WP:SCIRS, though sockpuppetry and single-purpose accounts out of touch with wider...

accordance to Wikipedia policy/guidelines. When reminded of this, he cites (WP:SCIRS) to justify his recurring behavior of making contentious/bold edits before...

challenging by the persistent insertions of material that does not meet WP:SCIRS or WP:MEDRS. Novice users, who members of WT:MED group say are known students...

removed the source at a later date, I was doing so under under WP:RS and WP:SCIRS after reflecting on the general topic for some time, and EllenCT brought...

practice to enforce a guideline with existing consensus (e.g. WP:MEDRS or WP:SCIRS) more strictly, not invent one out of whole cloth. I think this restriction...

journal, and he removed it too. His reason for removing it? "Please review WP:SCIRS for sourcing and WP:REFB for how to format your references." This is not...

to policies and guidelines, especially ones like WP:RS (WP:MEDRS and WP:SCIRS in my area) and WP:WEIGHT primarily and frequently cite them. Calling someone...

community on this issue, and he is not following official wp policy from WP:SCIRS which specifically states "Respect primary sources A primary source... may...

interpretation by individual editors) is very questionable. I am all for MEDRS, the SCIRS essay, and the preference for scholarly sources as specified at SOURCETYPES...

references; many of the references meet more stringent criteria including WP:SCIRS and the articles usually provide reasonably weighted coverage of minority...

controversial or preliminary conclusions that go beyond the evidence. Look at WP:SCIRS and see if breed articles need more nuance (breeds are NOT a species… and...

the reversions were due to Jytdog misapplying WP:MEDRS standards to WP:SCIRS content. I can't find the diff, but DP saw the community's failure to subdue...

use news media sources for any sort of scientific facts anyway (see WP:SCIRS and WP:MEDRS). And for breaking science news, there are plenty of far more...

taking a natural sciences approach, or the veterinary medicine approach, WP:SCIRS or WP:MEDRS outline how reliable scientific sources are different from the...

happy. The well-known editor cited WP:SCIRS as evidence that I shouldn't include the discussion. Yet, WP:SCIRS specifically states "Respect primary sources...

or uncivil disagreement over the proper application of WP:WEIGHT and WP:SCIRS, though sockpuppetry and single-purpose accounts out of touch with wider...

(UTC) Comment by Arbitrators: Comment by parties: Comment by others: WP:SCIRS was never intended to apply to economics. It applies to the natural sciences...

also think it is important to hold to clear standards on sourcing, NPOV, SCIRS and so on, the tone I'm seeing has gotten very personal and gone well past...

be other pages this could be applicable) A similar stance would be for SCIRS topics. This should be used for content that has general encyclopedic value...

(more information). -- VeblenBot (talk) 02:00, 27 August 2012 (UTC) WP:SCIRS has been around for some time. It's guidelines reflect the current practice...

article cites the original research report, as WP:SCIRS allows in a situation like this. WP:SCIRS does not disallow news coverage, although it has advice...

WikiProject's tropical meteorology articles may also be found at WP:SCICITE and WP:SCIRS. Reports, bulletins, and other products issued by Regional Specialized Meteorological...

WikiProject's tropical meteorology articles may also be found at WP:SCICITE and WP:SCIRS. Reports, bulletins, and other products issued by Regional Specialized Meteorological...

and ideas taken from primary sources as we define a secondary source. WP:SCIRS is pretty clear that a secondary source is a review or book, which as far...

or uncivil disagreement over the proper application of WP:WEIGHT and WP:SCIRS, though sockpuppetry and single-purpose accounts out of touch with wider...

community to develop sourcing guidelines along the lines of WP:MEDRS or WP:SCIRS for controversial historical topics." And also the points above by Maxim...

of the WP:COI sources, but I'm just not finding appropriate WP:MEDRS/WP:SCIRS secondary coverage. None of the seemingly independent secondary sources...

definitely favor an indefinite site ban. If he’s not indeffed, the MEDRS, SCIRS, etc need to be included. And the noticeboards. I agree that banning him...

800-1100, D.M. Hadley, Bloomsbury, 2001. Sowerby was not a shire; it was a scir, understood as a poorly understood unit of territorial organization under...

are inaccurate. Ghostofnemo (talk) 00:41, 14 December 2011 (UTC) Per WP:SCIRS#Use up-to-date evidence "While articles should be kept up to date by citing...

I was looking for it and couldn't find it, the relevant guidance is WP:SCIRS. My argument during this AfD has only ever been that there should be an...

absolutely support what Joe is recommending re: WP:SCIRS. JoelleJay (talk) 15:48, 21 July 2020 (UTC) Yes, WP:SCIRS is a good essay and deserves to be elevated...

Delete. Lacks secondary independent coverage that we would look for in WP:SCIRS. Something would have to pass muster in Spiral galaxy before seriously considering...

recent years and most of the sources are out of date and not solid per WP:SCIRS. There is a 3-year old proposal for merger with Phytochemical but such a...

Delete. Lacks secondary independent coverage that we would look for in WP:SCIRS. Something would have to pass muster in Spiral galaxy before seriously considering...

zero eccentricity), so it's not new. It's also pretty weak in terms of WP:SCIRS too. A single primary research article carries different weight depending...

(UTC) You need peer-reviewed sources to back up scientific facts. See WP:SCIRS. I pointed out that there doesn't seem to be any peer-reviewed sources that...

I consider that quite acceptable given this circumstance. Moreover, WP:SCIRS#Popular_press states that "one possibility is to cite a higher-quality source...

of the WP:COI sources, but I'm just not finding appropriate WP:MEDRS/WP:SCIRS secondary coverage. None of the seemingly independent secondary sources...

ThePlatypusofDoom (talk) 16:06, 9 April 2016 (UTC) Delete: There is no evidence in WP:SCIRS literature that ingested polyphenols ("phenolics") a) have definable roles...

those associated with TM, are reliable sources, because WP:MEDRS and WP:SCIRS don't apply to social sciences (and somehow, the effect of meditation on...

better to go to a university press or the peer reviewed literature per WP:SCIRS, but for WP:FRINGE articles it makes sense to go to a publisher who commonly...

newspaper was removed because our guidelines for scientific content WP:MEDRS WP:SCIRS strongly caution against their use. Monsanto: The "you wouldn't believe"...

Science" on a list of "peer-reviewed open access journals". I consulted WP:SCIRS, it reads: "This page does not address reliability in context of the social...

about it. 12:54, 14 June 2021 (UTC) Comment/Bad RfC. One by one: per WP:SCIRS we are generally discouraged to cite popular press for scientific facts...

Peasantry and the Growth of Lordship, where it is characterised as a 'small scir'. Andrew (talk) 12:01, 8 February 2014 (UTC) Please avoid personal accusations...

temperature) is a scientific one , and there I would suspect we need a WP:SCIRS-meeting publication - something like Wired, Scientific American, or even...

puzzlement. The abbreviated form is derived from the Old English Hantum plus Scir (meaning a district governed from the settlement now known as Southampton)...

must be based on secondary sources. Scientific content is discussed in WP:SCIRS which says "Articles published in respected peer-reviewed scientific journals...

namely about what WP:PRIMARY means in respect to WP:MEDRS, WP:HISTRS and WP:SCIRS. Origin of the Romanians#DNA / Paleogenetics seems exclusively based on...

major news sources are running that as fact. This is the type of thing that SCIRS should be covering, whereas the measure of how much forest was lost is far...

medical topic, that does clarify the primary/secondary distinction. The WP:SCIRS essay may be of interest, and the WP:SECONDARY policy shows that editors...

page; this is true. Jytdog (talk) 21:06, 10 August 2015 (UTC) MEDRS and SCIRS are clear that we pull content of this sort from respected academic organizations...

to scholarly/scientific sources when describing scientific topics per WP:SCIRS (not a guideline, sadly). Fox News is just too bad for lay summaries of...

Large parts of SCIRS are copy-pasted from (an old version of) WP:MEDRS, but with some words changed. There may be a place for a SCIRS but it would need...

archaeology dilettantes"<ref>Quoted by M. Babeș</ref>. According to WP:SCIRS and WP:HISTRS I want to see many mainstream (i.e. not from the walled garden...

different than what you're bringing up, but in both cases, it wouldn't be a WP:SCIRS source and should have limited usage at best anyways. For this overall conversation...

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this stuff is FRINGEY. When there is clear scientific-based claims (MEDRS/SCIRS) to demonstrate the FRINGE, that's fine, but I'm reading between the lines...

WP:MEDANIMAL, WP:BESTSOURCES, WP:MEDPRI (policies and guidelines) and WP:RSE, WP:SCIRS, WP:RSUW (essays). I am not pulling these criteria out of nowhere. They...

issues in clinical psychiatry, pharmacochemistry, and the like while WP:SCIRS should be considered for anything in experimental psychology, theories,...

pieces. The fact that it is a self published opinion, contradicts the WP:SCIRS statement that "Most books and monographs that are self-published or published...

different states. Yeah i know about the Normans and the first counties. Shires (Scirs) where an Anglo-Saxon thing that the Normans never really understood, but...

of dollars to try to "re-brand pit bulls as family dogs.". This isn't a SCIRS domain, it's standard journalistic fare. Pearlst is being obstructionist...

non-medical biology articles. Choess (talk) 23:19, 29 March 2013 (UTC) WP:SCIRS mentions that review articles are ideal sources. Review articles are a type...

enough to establish facts of marine biology and fishery science? Shouldn't SCIRS apply here? Geogene (talk) 15:42, 1 April 2014 (UTC) I removed the copy...

the topic where they teach. I favor balance and NPOV, but the MEDRS and SCIRS gang need to remember that not all "alternative" medicine consists of quack...

in conflict with his personal agenda (or POV) based on essays such as WP:SCIRS and WP:MEDRS, while including same or similar primary and secondary content...

been brought up before on RSN, and it seems to be entirely lacking in the SCIRS essay, which is probably where this should be consolidated. Would you consider...

remaining evidence for non-effect comes from personal accounts that are not WP:SCIRS. Publication of zero-effect results on true drug candidates is a critical...

medicine areas , SCIRS and MEDRS do have use the primary sources to speak precisely about the work in those fields (MEDRS more so than SCIRS) as mainstream...

of thought as the expert. It is important to see how this mirrors MEDRS/SCIRS, in terms of the weight put on peer-reviewed journals (or in this case,...

about the male-line genetic origins of people with inadmissable (per WP:SCIRS) low quality references and exclusion of references that don't fit the agenda...

keep the article focused on the most reliable research per WP:MEDRS and WP:SCIRS. - 2/0 (cont.) 18:27, 29 June 2014 (UTC) Yes, the problems are continuing...

scientific process involved (this would be true if we were talking MEDRS or SCIRS sourcing, and there's the whole aspect of not being able to prove a negative)...

them. Hemiauchenia (talk) 18:46, 3 February 2021 (UTC) There is the WP:SCIRS page, but it's only an essay. Perhaps it should evolve into something more...

Wikipedia requires reliable sources) and I gave Al-sow a link to the WP:SCIRS page on identifying reliable sources. see (Al-sow's comment and my reply...

claiming that since these are "social sciences" things like WP:MEDRS and WP:SCIRS don't apply. Gaijin42 (talk) 18:47, 23 October 2013 (UTC) I cannot for the...

into panic/fears about it but wait for actual published studies on it per SCIRS (in a similar vein as per MEDRS). That these are record breaking temps absolutely...

debate, based on these sources. This is not censoring news, but upholding SCIRS for all purposes that as an encyclopedia, we're looking to summarize dominate...

concerned in these contexts about the attempt by KoA at passing off WP:SCIRS as if it were actually a guideline. There are some essays that have guideline-like...

applied to sourcing for any medical claims contained within. (Ditto WP:SCIRS). So to me this becomes a question of 1) how can the article can be expanded...

not mentioned in the Wikipedia vitamin A article, and not supported by WP:SCIRS reviews. The only edits this user has made in their editing history since...

I'm happy that set of guidelines exist, but when we tried to implement WP:SCIRS, the pushback we got from fringe POV-pushers prevented implementation. We're...

NPOV of the article? My position is that WP:RS is suitable, perhaps WP:SCIRS though, clearly, MEDRS sources are great - when available. Further, the...

Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 18:13, 13 December 2022 (UTC) There is a reason we have SCIRS alongside MEDRS. If a major medical reported a breakthrough in treating...

you? Gigs (talk) 04:57, 15 December 2010 (UTC) The relevant page is WP:SCIRS, a controversial policy proposal similar to WP:MEDRS but for all Science...

self reverted my misleading additions. Sorry for the mess. I also read WP:SCIRS, which suggests that only teritery studies are used, and no primary research...

for guidance to add relative and reputable sources. ScirIvan (talk) 06:58, 22 July 2024 (UTC) @ScirIvan, the sources are things like "18 Free and Paid...

use of the concept; it would make the page grow to hundreds of pages. WP:SCIRS: "The fact that a statement is published in a refereed journal does not...

21:41, 29 January 2026 (UTC) First source is a thesis, so no in terms of WP:SCIRS/WP:MEDRS depending on use. The second is from the National Hog Farmer, so...

comment, I'll just highlight what I said back then As is typical per WP:SCIRS or WP:MEDRS, we generally wait for secondary scientific sources (i.e. not...

scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) Per WP:GNG, WP:NEO, WP:SCIRS/WP:MEDRS, and previous discussions such as apothisexuality, noetisexuality...

experts here - claim must be true. Its the reason MEDRS (and to an extent, SCIRS) exist, to point out that there are only certain soruces that can make authorative...

objective truth of anything they claim., and I had this essay saved: WP:SCIRS#White_and_grey_literature, which says: "Advocacy organizations formed for...

remaining evidence for non-effect comes from personal accounts that are not WP:SCIRS. Publication of zero-effect results on true drug candidates is a critical...

December 2023 (UTC) There is already WP:RSLAW, which is an essay (like WP:SCIRS and others but not MEDRS). It seems pretty thorough, however it is almost...

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached...

criteria, though there is a general "science" sources recommendation at WP:SCIRS. My point is that any organized subject area, typically meaning something...

WP:BEFORE search, "apothisexuality" has not been discussed by any WP:MEDRS/WP:SCIRS—which would be necessary in order to even define the concept since it is...

media to confirm this. And more preferably from sources that would meet SCIRS (not necessarily a peer reviewed paper, but some source with a good foundation...

medical-based stories (this is one), we expect a peer-reviewed source per SCIRS and MEDRS. Newspapers and the general media are not experts to be able to...