A courtesy note to let you know tat planespotters.net is not a reliable source - see WP:PLANESPOTTERS. The same is also true of simpleflying.com - WP:SIMPLEFLYING. Thanks. 10mmsocket (talk) 07:31, 20 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

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This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

• in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
• reliable
• secondary
• strictly independent of the subject
  

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MediaKyle (talk) 03:07, 11 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

It is not clear which sources do not qualify. Please clarify. MappingWiki (talk) 18:05, 17 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

The first two references are just single line mentions of the history, and of course one is a primary source (the airline's website). The third, airlinehistory.co.uk is a self-published fansite WP:SPS it is no way a reliable source. ex-yu is also a self-published site - just look at the about-us which states "EX-YU Aviation News is managed singlehandedly, which includes all news content, comment moderation, as well as web design." Cirum is behind a registration-wall so I cannot see what is on that reference. So that's zero references which meet the criteria listed above. 10mmsocket (talk) 18:14, 17 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

To be honest, your approach unfairly targets and discriminates against those in developing countries. The number of sources that meet your specific standards in developing countries is approaching zero, as someone who specifically works in these countries.

Very unfortunate approach. MappingWiki (talk) 18:14, 13 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

And just to add I have previously removed both simpleflying.com and planespotters.net from your draft. Neither is reliable and the former has actually be deprecated. See WP:SIMPLEFLYING and WP:PLANESPOTTERS. 10mmsocket (talk) 18:15, 17 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hello, MappingWiki! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! MediaKyle (talk) 03:07, 11 December 2025 (UTC)Reply